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Mr. Gray
Thu Feb 10 2011, 08:55PM
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I got a set of Innerairlocks and rock rings about 3 weeks ago Been trying to get all the wheels off the truck so I can get started but with a the rain the back yard is so wet that when I try to jack up the truck the jack just sinks. Maybe this coming week it will dry up some so I can get the show on the road.

Ok for you that don’t know, Innerairlocks is a blatter and tube that gets installed inside the tire, it fits on the inside of the rim and when the tube is air up it pushes the beads of the tire against the rim locking them in place. This is a double bead lock setup. Next off they are street-able no problems from the law. The rock rings are used to protect the bead area and strengthen the out edge of the rim, as well as guard the valve stems from being hit or ripped out.


Here is a bit of my thinking to give you an idea of why I went with the Innerairlocks.
Weld on's bead locks just can't be driven on the street because of laws, also they do not center the tire very well and you would have more balance problems.
I thought about Allied bead locks, that center the wheel, but then again they are race only no street use. Also you would have to keep checking the bolts to ensure they are not coming lose all the time on both setups.
Street-able bead locks like rock monsters are just more then I am willing to pay at more the 300 each, H1's are cheap and easy to find also you can get any type of bolt pattern from a few places that offer press in centers, but the wheel itself is very very heavy, This is a problem unless you have big axles like 60’s and 14bolts that I don’t have, Running the smaller axles 44 front and GM 10 bolt rear I need to keep the wheel weight mass as light as I can to help the axles live. Also all new tires would have to be bought because H1’s are 16.5’s

Here is a link to the innerairlocks http://www.innerairlock.com/
And here is a few pics of them the pic of the rock ring on the truck was just a test fit they all will be welded right to the rim.

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NC-Fordguy
Fri Feb 11 2011, 07:37PM
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Just thinking out loud here........


Have you ever busted a bead on the trail???

Reason I ask is that I haven't. I've aired down to 7 pounds and never had an issue. I'm running 12.50 wide tires on an 8 in wheel. This set-up thus far had held up well.

I do agree with you on keeping things as light as possible. Breaking axle shafts sucks

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toyzilla
Fri Feb 11 2011, 09:26PM
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I have outside beadlock and have pushed the inside bead off. i run 5-10 psi. i think there a good idea.

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redman
Sat Feb 12 2011, 09:51AM
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Me too I have many time Jon not me yet but can happen and it will

big mean machine - D44 front 12 bolt rear, stuffed with 4.88 gears, locked front and rear, all powered by a 360 on propane

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Mr. Gray
Sat Feb 12 2011, 10:43AM
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NC-Fordguy wrote ...

Just thinking out loud here........


Have you ever busted a bead on the trail???

Reason I ask is that I haven't. I've aired down to 7 pounds and never had an issue. I'm running 12.50 wide tires on an 8 in wheel. This set-up thus far had held up well.

I do agree with you on keeping things as light as possible. Breaking axle shafts sucks


Well I have never had a problem yet Ed. I have seen the inner bead get pushed off a few times on other rigs.
I have been running around 10 Lbs on the trails seams to work well, I would like to run around 5 or 6 Lbs, with the added innerairlocks that should help keep the beads on at such a low pressure.

I hadn't thought of running a narrow rim on a wide tire. That is a very smart idea I would think.
It's a little late for me to go a different way now seeing that I have already bought everything.



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Mr. Gray
Sat Feb 26 2011, 10:41AM
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Was able to get the truck jacked up in the back yard last weekend. I had one lug stud that scewed up on the front that needs repaced, Not happy about it but it's better to happen now then on the trail, going to replace any that look bad and keep a few spares with nuts on the truck just because crap happens.

I just got the wheels back from the welder today. He used a tig welder on um.

I will start installing the innerairlocks this coming week.

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toyzilla
Sat Feb 26 2011, 05:22PM
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good looking rims

"take it to the eXtreme"

93 Toyota Custom Built Tube Buggy Rock Crawler
4-link F&R, 36" TSL tires, 12k winch, Fox Shox, lock & loaded, dual cases, beadlocks , New Dirty 30 Front Axles
Check Out My Rig and Trail Rides. My photo's
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Mr. Gray
Sun Feb 27 2011, 02:17PM
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toyzilla wrote ...

good looking rims


Thanks

Steven
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Mr. Gray
Sun Feb 27 2011, 02:23PM
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I said to hell with it at about noon time yesterday and started putting them together, by about 5:30ish I had all 4 wheels put together and on the truck. Not too bad for one guy jumping up and down on them tires trying to get em on the rim's. The first one took the longest after that one the rest were a breeze.

Also them Airsoft BB's are the Shiznit!!! I put about 10 oz in each tire. Runs down the road just fine no wobble no bounce no shaky steering wheel.

Didn’t have any problems with the install of the inner air locks. I have 30 PSI in them now I will keep checking them for the next few days, Anyways we shall see in the next few months how they hold up.

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Mr. Gray
Wed Sep 07 2011, 11:36PM
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Well I just picked up a astro steering box that has been taped for hydro. maybe a bit before i can come up with the rest of the parts.

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NC-Fordguy
Fri Sep 09 2011, 12:41AM
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Is that an aftermarket box or did you send one off to get tapped?

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Mr. Gray
Sat Sep 10 2011, 10:08PM
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I wish I knew.. The guy I got the box from just removed it a few months back to do a full hydraulic setup, He bought the rig a few years ago and the box was already in it, So he has no idea as well. There was a tag on the box it looked like a stock type tag, I think it was a stock box that has been tapped.
I got a good deal on it only paid 133 with shipping,



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Mr. Gray
Sun Jul 01 2012, 09:04PM
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Update.
Yah I haven’t been around for sometime. Have had some money problems and just couldn't do anything on the truck.

Don’t worry It's not going to get cut up or sold. It's paid for so it can set as long as it takes me to get back to it.

I will up date as things change..



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Mr. Gray
Sat Jul 21 2012, 09:58PM
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Was able to swing a deal on 10 foot of 2x2 square tube 1/4 wall.

Will be adding some more supports on the sliders and maybe some supports for a skid plate under the t-case.


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Steven
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redman
Mon Jul 23 2012, 02:08PM
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i need the bike to get to work and back home. and save alot of $

big mean machine - D44 front 12 bolt rear, stuffed with 4.88 gears, locked front and rear, all powered by a 360 on propane

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Mr. Gray
Mon Jul 23 2012, 10:02PM
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redman wrote ...

i need the bike to get to work and back home. and save alot of $


HAHA I made that bike about 10 years ago. My son screwed it up and it has just set for years. got sick of looking at it and put it back togeather the last few months.

It will be for sale very soon. I will post up more info and pics of it then.

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Mr. Gray
Wed Jul 25 2012, 10:39PM
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Mr. Gray
Fri Aug 03 2012, 07:56PM
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Got the center supports made up. And the rear plates cut out that will fit over the leaf spring mounts. I made them a bit long so I would have something to weld on to if more bracing needs to be done on top of the frame rail.

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NC-Fordguy
Thu Aug 09 2012, 08:34PM
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Are you experiencing distortion on the frame now, or is this more of a piece of mind thing?

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Mr. Gray
Sun Aug 12 2012, 11:16PM
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NC-Fordguy wrote ...

Are you experiencing distortion on the frame now, or is this more of a piece of mind thing?


No distortion at all, Just beefing up the rock slider suports, Then some under armor to keep the t-case safe.

I got a few other things i want to do but I need to get the above done first,

On a side note I did find some tires for about half the cost of new ones.
I will be picking them up next weekend.
they are Maxxis Creepy Crawlers 38x13x15


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Mr. Gray
Sat Aug 18 2012, 06:10PM
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I picked them tires up.

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Mr. Gray
Sun Aug 26 2012, 10:18PM
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Well the new tires are on. They are not very road friendly at all, so long road trips is out of the question for now.

Also found 2 lug studs that need replaced. Going to add them to my ever growing list of stuff to fix.

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Mr. Gray
Thu Sep 13 2012, 09:15PM
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Some new old parts. I now have a GM SRW 14 bolt 8 lug axle that I will be building it will be replace the 10 bolt rear have now.

Plan is to disc brake it, re-gear it 538's, lock it, and shave it.

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Thu Sep 13 2012, 10:02PM
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Have you seen where they mohawk a 14 bolt..sick and functional

97 XJ in pieces..
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Mr. Gray
Fri Sep 14 2012, 06:23AM
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I have but thats I bit more then what I need. Just going to shave the bottom. I have a few kits to pick from, haven't picked one yet.

Steven
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